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Mykorion
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Dominica
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 Posted - 02/21/2002 : 21:52:57
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Hey I have to ask some questions on the split toe shoes and also on the unfiform.
1)What advantage do does the split toe shoe have.
2)Apart from black, what other colors are mainly used by a ninja?
3)I would like to get the estimated cost of the split toe shoe.
I strive to be better every day and to be successful I must learn to appreciate love and life.I must be content with what little I have, for as long as something is rightfully attained it is of great value.
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Shizen9
Frequent Member
USA
134 Posts |
 Posted - 03/02/2002 : 13:41:45
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1) Tabi, split-toed shoes are designed that way so that they can be worn with sandals. It's a Japanese thing. We practice a Japanese art so we wear Japanese clothing.
2) The black uniforms are really just that, uniforms. Black is not really a 'ninja' color as it is too dark to be used for stealth / camouflage. The people I train with wear whatever clothing they want. I've seen tie-dyed shirts, kakhi shorts, flip-flops (sandals), and fuzzy bedroom slippers worn to training. We don't get too formal with the uniforms unless it is a more formal training session like a seminar.
For concealment, you must wear a color that is very similar to your surroundings. White in snow, tan in desert sand, various greens in forests, etc. Light blues and greys work well in urban areas. Wearing black against a brick or concrete wall is no better than wearing hot pink in the woods.
3) Tabi can cost anywhere between 20-40 US$ They come in several varieties. I like the shorter, thin-soled type. Not the really short, cloth, indoor variety, but the rubber and canvas kind. Cost me about 25$ They've worn out quite a bit in the 3 years I've had them. A needle and some thread and some duct tape keeps them on my feet. The kind I have close with velcro, but I would prefer the kind with metal clasps.
It's fun to wear the costume, eh? Makes training seem more exotic and special to a yankee like me.
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Shizen9
Frequent Member
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2002 : 13:42:57
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p.s. some may consider their tabi shoes to be weapons, but I think this topic would be better in the general discussion forum.
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Mykorion
New Member
Dominica
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Posted - 03/05/2002 : 17:17:37
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Hey I got some information bout the split toe shoes. I read that the shoes were designed that way to help the ninja when climing trees.
Uuuhh, I just wanna say that i am so happy toe be into the art of Ninjutsu because to me, their is no other martial art so indepth and it seems so pure. I really understand about peace and appreciating life and also the laws of the universe.
Hey what are you guys favourite techniques and weapons in ninjutsu?
I cant really choose a technique but i like the staff & swords.
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Ninja_Dog
New Member
USA
6 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2002 : 01:50:47
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i have not trained yet but i say the bo staff
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dirithtai
Regular Member
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2002 : 00:47:45
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for question Number 2, most Ninja's only wore the classical "ninja uniform" in the wilderness or late at night. None of them walked down the street with the mask and comfy getup typically associated with ninjas. Ninjas were fairly secretive, so why would they dress in a way that screams "hey, I'm a member of a ninja clan possessed of really coll and spiffy techniques, come beat me up and force me to teach them to you!!!" that seems kinda silly, to me. Most ninja's spen the majority of their time in normal clothes, Kimono and Hakama or peasant outfits. (basically burlap sacks with holes in the appropriate places..)
With reference to the later question about the favorite weapon...
Geez, there's so many.
My favorite to use is either bo-staff or Naginata, because they're both really long, affording a great advantage of being able to smack someone without getting smacked meself, and they're deceptive, while they're spinning, its hard as toast to track the movement, and its hard to concentrate on anything else (thus making me miss the clues I need to figure out where the next attack is gonna be. Maybe that's a personal problem though...)
For sheer "Damn that's cool" -ness, I'd have to say the Kusarigama. The idea of a big razor edged sickle on a string just appeals to me for some reason...
For history and feeling when I'm using it, the Katana, simply because its so much more than a three-foot razor (though that appeals as well.) A katana, at least to me, embodies all that it is to be a warrior, strong but flexible, deadly, beautiful, with a killing edge and a harmless edge, etc. I just really like the...mythos, I guess...of the sword in Japanese culture. Gee, I should probly stop babbling...
For sheer usefulness, though, knife is the best weapon to learn, because the odds are, in a modern setting, a guy is way more likely to pull a K-bar than a katana, so its best to know how to cope with that.
"In emptiness there is good but no evil. Wisdom exists, logic exists, the Way exists, but the mind is empty."
--Musashi
Tim
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Shadowdeamon311
Regular Member
United Kingdom
26 Posts |
 Posted - 03/07/2003 : 09:46:51
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"Those who use the military skillfully do not raise armies twice, and do not provide food three times." - Sun Tzu |
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Dyspare
Starting Member
Australia
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Posted - 12/13/2003 : 12:47:23
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Firstly, I admire your enthusiasm for this wonderful art. However, I want to bring to your attentiont the fact that Hatsumi-soke consider the act of asking a persontheir favourite technique/weapon as terribly reprehensible - a big taboo. In response to this question, he will ussually relpy "ohh, so you want to kill me huh?" lol. I just wnated to make you aware of this. Keep training, and have fun. Remember, Every encounter is sacred!
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dopefish
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 12/15/2003 : 02:21:23
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I'm not an expert, but i believe the idea is not to have a favorite technique. this creates patterns and techniques are just ways to get killed. my favorite "technique" is to pay attention and know what would be the best course of action at any moment. well, at least thats what im striving for in my training. also im notcing a training hall trend here. ninpo is a way of life. a way of thinking and being. you cant turn it on and off. so strive to make it a "part of you" really you are a part of it but thats another discussion. just a thought. :) keep up the training people. it just occured to me how ironic it is that the western influence that once brought the bushi/ninpo ryu to the brink of extinction is now working to preserve it. hah!
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mog roith
Frequent Member
Canada
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Posted - 12/15/2003 : 18:29:51
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I think this whole 'favorite technique' thing is something coming about from fighting games like Tekken. People use characters because of their favorite techniques. Real fighting isn't like that, because you use what works when it will work, or you get your butt stomped. The beauty of ninjutsu, to me, is the innate flexibility and reactiveness of the art. I've trained in a couple other arts, and they felt too stylized for me liking.
That said, some techniques are REALLY pretty when pulled off right. But those are my favorite to SEE, not my favorite to DO.
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hattori hanzo
Starting Member
Chile
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Posted - 01/13/2004 : 19:35:13
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hello to all I am of Chile and I mean to them that I am very happy that there are many loving people of ninjutsu. in Chile there is no person who knows of that and I then had to follow my own way of training and want to request that they maintain that enthusiasm to them and that this beautiful art extends by the world, thanks
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hattori hanzo
Starting Member
Chile
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Posted - 01/13/2004 : 19:53:28
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to if almost it forgetfulness, I want to ask to them if the tecnic kage bun shin no jutsu is not single consentracion of ki to deceive the enemy or is a tecnic where what it sees is real?
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fyfeysan
Starting Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/18/2004 : 08:51:45
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i just joined the bujinkan brian dojo in the glasgow,scotland. and am really enjoying it. also in answer to your query about the split toe shoes, i used to read alot about this when i was younger, and i remember reading that the split toes were a form of camouflage, as in when you walk on your tip toes in these shoes, they leave a print like a hooved animal (deer, or camel type print) therefore iliminating any oppponent being aware of your whereabouts.
fyfeysan
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Shizen9
Frequent Member
USA
134 Posts |
 Posted - 01/18/2004 : 15:30:36
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To keep things on topic....
Discussing your enthusiasm / appreciation of ninpo, and favorite weapons & techniques should be started in a new thread.
Mykorion, Shadowdeamon, fyfeysan,
Keep in mind, that besides the advantage I mentioned, all other advantages of tabi are a consequence of design, and not "built-in." It's the resourcefulness and ingenuity of the ninja mind that allow one to notice that hey, yeah, this split-toe feature helps my climbing, or my stealth movement, or my toe-kicks, etc. . . .
Ninja did not invent tabi, and whoever did - did not do so with any other thought in mind besides "I'd like to wear socks with my sandals." Modern tabi "shoes" are likely a result of someone sewing or otherwise fastening their sandals to their tabi socks to make a one-piece shoe.
Okay, I'm about to be guilty of thread-drift, but I wanted to touch on the favorite weapon/technique topic:
Not having a favorite is based on the buddhist principle of non-attachment - very useful to the martial artist. By not being attached to 'forms' (techniques, styles, weapons, etc.) you are able to attain 'formlessness.' - things without form cannot be distroyed.
That's the philosophy at least. I might start a new thread to discuss this topic further.
mdm |
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Shizen9
Frequent Member
USA
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Posted - 01/18/2004 : 15:32:59
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To keep things on topic....
Discussing your enthusiasm / appreciation of ninpo, and favorite weapons & techniques should be started in a new thread.
Mykorion, Shadowdeamon, fyfeysan,
Keep in mind, that besides the advantage I mentioned, all other advantages of tabi are a consequence of design, and not "built-in." It's the resourcefulness and ingenuity of the ninja mind that allow one to notice that hey, yeah, this split-toe feature helps my climbing, or my stealth movement, or my toe-kicks, etc. . . .
Ninja did not invent tabi, and whoever did - did not do so with any other thought in mind besides "I'd like to wear socks with my sandals." Modern tabi "shoes" are likely a result of someone sewing or otherwise fastening their sandals to their tabi socks to make a one-piece shoe.
Okay, I'm about to be guilty of thread-drift, but I wanted to touch on the favorite weapon/technique topic:
Not having a favorite is based on the buddhist principle of non-attachment - very useful to the martial artist. By not being attached to 'forms' (techniques, styles, weapons, etc.) you are able to attain 'formlessness.' - things without form cannot be distroyed.
That's the philosophy at least. I might start a new thread to discuss this topic further.
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Dyspare
Starting Member
Australia
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 Posted - 01/24/2004 : 00:29:51
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Yes, I see. I still have so much to learn, thank-you very much.
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