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xanatos
Starting Member
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 Posted - 05/11/2004 : 00:35:21
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What is the name of that extra large sword? How heavy is it?
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shadowshihan
New Member
Canada
5 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2004 : 20:51:44
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shadowshihan
New Member
Canada
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Posted - 06/06/2004 : 20:55:02
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the sword that your reffering is the O-dachi
as far as the length and actual weight, it varies from sword to sword. traditionally the sword was custom made for its owner, so it was always different.
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LCPLPunk
Frequent Member
Canada
236 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2004 : 16:37:47
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Did ninja use those?
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solaris
Regular Member
United Kingdom
44 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 04:20:41
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the original ninja use
Ninja-to
these are the straight swords you see they are less sharp than the katana and used to stab ratgher than slice.
hope this helps
they are usualy made from stolen samurai katanas and also broken swords
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studious_ninja
Frequent Member
Japan
127 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 22:43:28
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| you may want to disregard that last post. the ninja-to as it is perceived today (the straight sword with no curve) is highly debated among martial artists as to whether or not it even existed. Most training with ninja-to that I know of is a sword that has a 'regular' sized tsuka (handle) but a shorter blade inside a regular saya (scabbard) that way your opponent thinks you have a certain amount of blade to draw but because your blade's shorter than it appears it comes out quicker and catches the opponent off guard. |
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LCPLPunk
Frequent Member
Canada
236 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 23:01:03
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So basically like a mini sword?
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studious_ninja
Frequent Member
Japan
127 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2004 : 01:03:00
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| kind of. having the shorter blade with a `regular` saya allows you to keep things (such as metsubishi) in your saya. also, if the ninja-to were straight, as some people think, your opponent would know right away he was dealing with a `ninja` because the saya/sword he`s wearing is straight. and that is not good kyojitsu now is it? |
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LCPLPunk
Frequent Member
Canada
236 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2004 : 09:13:51
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Nope, I guess it isn't. :P
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solaris
Regular Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/17/2004 : 05:37:38
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Sorry studious but i have to disagree with the so called nija- to they do have shorter blades approx a thousand year or so of using weapons through japan and china have managed to refine the art.
the nija to was usualy made from stolen or broken katana that were taken from samurai.
the ninja families were mostly farmers ect though they did have a very wide newtwork of people that they used. the blade is still believed to have been strainght to stab as opposed to the katana the blade has curvature to slice through. the scabard has been used to carry such things as blinding powder, dhuriken darts, spears tips poisions ect. this is why the shorter blade.
at least this is my opinion and we could argue for years yet no one will rally knoe even information is percieved differently over the years and possabvly watered down again.
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LCPLPunk
Frequent Member
Canada
236 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2004 : 10:25:39
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Do you have sources for those claims? :P
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studious_ninja
Frequent Member
Japan
127 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2004 : 14:36:15
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| this debate is going to go all crazy.. starting now. "the nija to was usualy made from stolen or broken katana that were taken from samurai" Now you're differentiating ninja from samurai. Was there a difference? hehe. The debate about the curvature (or lack thereof) of the sword is part and parcel of the debate about whether ninja were seperate from samurai or whether they were samurai. If ninja were ex samurai who fled into the mountains, blah blah, etc etc why would they decide to use a different weapon having done all that training already with a curved blade? During the warring states period of japan katana were plentiful. it wasn't really until the tokugawa shogunate started and the violence essentially ended that artistic value was placed on weapons and such. I find it amusing that people want to believe the blade was straight and that the saya was filled with metsubishi, etc. If your sword was straight, then your saya would have to be straight as well. Someone walking around japan with a straight saya would stick out like a sore thumb. 'don't go near that guy. see his straight saya. that guy's a ninja and he's got blinding powders in there.' So much for secrecy. |
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LCPLPunk
Frequent Member
Canada
236 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2004 : 20:53:07
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Might as well wear a colored ninja outfit and wave at everyone as they stare at you. :P
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Tenchu877
Regular Member
USA
60 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2004 : 23:50:36
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If either of you have seen the video from Soke titled Ken,Tachi,Katana. They show an actual ninja-to sword that Soke owns. It is a shorter version on the Katana used with the long saya. Also in the Ninja Bikenjutsu video it shows different types of ninja swords. There isnt any "one" type. Remember this is an art used to survive. They used what ever they could get ahold of. I do agree though that the straight blade ninja-to isnt true..just cause the fact that it would stand out. Also Soke says the straight blade myth is false.
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LCPLPunk
Frequent Member
Canada
236 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2004 : 18:28:12
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I ended up putting a rope between two trees for training..anyways, i attached my bokken to my outfit and jumped on the rope..immediately the bokken fell down towards the earth.
My question is, how did the ninja prevent this from happening?
Aaron Lucia
Maitland/Orlando Bujinkan
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studious_ninja
Frequent Member
Japan
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Posted - 08/02/2004 : 22:39:33
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| you don't give us much information to go on. How did you 'secure' your bokken to your 'outfit'? what exactly were you trying to do? |
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