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solaris
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/10/2004 :  13:59:41  Show Profile  Visit solaris's Homepage Send solaris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry for the silly question again i have a problem i have collected a great many swords because i like them.
Now i want to purchase a sword to train with but i have so many out there waht to use?
I have been looking at the Paul chen practical katana range.
What is best to use
Practical?
Practical plus
Practical pro.

the pro has a longer grip on it would this have an adverse effect?

thanks for you time on this.

sully

studious_ninja
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Japan
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Posted - 07/10/2004 :  15:15:51  Show Profile  Send studious_ninja a Yahoo! Message Send studious_ninja a Private Message  Reply with Quote
usually a longer tsuka(handle) is preferable. However if the nakago (part of the sword that goes into the tsuka) only goes part of the distance of the tsuka, the balance of the weapon is thrown off. i have heard good reviews of the paul chen swords, however, you should really put off purchasing and training with a sword until you have a qualified instructor teach you.
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LCPLPunk
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Canada
236 Posts

Posted - 07/10/2004 :  17:09:51  Show Profile Send LCPLPunk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How does one tell if the instructor is qualified? Also, does anyone know how to make the cloth stuff for the handgrip? I'm trying to make some for my bokken, but i'm not sure how to do it.

Aaron Lucia
Orlando/Maitland Bujinkan
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solaris
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/11/2004 :  14:50:17  Show Profile  Visit solaris's Homepage Send solaris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thanks for answering i have an instructor already and i have collected swords for an age.
Main reason for purchasing is for collection though i shall be using this when the time has come.
thanks again

sully
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LCPLPunk
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Canada
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Posted - 07/12/2004 :  10:34:04  Show Profile Send LCPLPunk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Solaris,

I have no swords yet but am interested in getting one. What would u suggest i look for in getting one? Where are good places to get them, and around how much do they cost?

Aaron Lucia
Orlando/Maitland Bujinkan
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studious_ninja
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Japan
127 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2004 :  00:00:00  Show Profile  Send studious_ninja a Yahoo! Message Send studious_ninja a Private Message  Reply with Quote
a good proper folded sword can cost you over a thousand dollars. if you buy a stainless steel blade; BE CAREFUL! those blades have been known to snap, causing injury. If you buy a cheap blade, the nakago usually only goes half way down the tsuka and you will be training with an improperly balanced sword.
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LCPLPunk
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Canada
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Posted - 07/13/2004 :  10:48:22  Show Profile Send LCPLPunk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the additional info, any idea where i can get a good, not too expensive sword? Any links would be appreciated. :)

Aaron Lucia
Orlando/Maitland Bujinkan
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solaris
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/13/2004 :  13:48:11  Show Profile  Visit solaris's Homepage Send solaris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LCPLPunk:
Depends on what you want it for really?
the best that i have found on the cheaper side are the practical katana range from paul chen. china's premier sword maker. they are forged blades though unlike the realy expensive folded blades as studious said, watch out fro the length of tang. this is the part of the blade that site inside of the handle.
After much deliberation i have just ordered today a paul chen practical katana plus.
see it here

http://www.swordsdirect.com/practical_katanas.html

i have spoken to severasl people and they all agree that this is the best sword to train with on a daily basis it has a full tang double pegged for security. and made more traditionaly that the cheaper orihinal ray skin ect leather wrap to help the grip.

i would recomend this one to anyone i have been playing around with one and i have fallen in love with it and very well balanced for the money.

hope this helps

sully
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LCPLPunk
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Canada
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Posted - 07/13/2004 :  15:03:27  Show Profile Send LCPLPunk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think i might get the Ninja Sword. :P



Aaron Lucia
Orlando/Maitland Bujinkan
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studious_ninja
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Japan
127 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2004 :  23:54:54  Show Profile  Send studious_ninja a Yahoo! Message Send studious_ninja a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the 'ninja' sword? as in the straight one? please do something wiser with your money like investing in a new company that drills for water in the sahara or something.
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LCPLPunk
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Canada
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Posted - 07/14/2004 :  11:53:58  Show Profile Send LCPLPunk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I meant the Paul Chen 'Ninja' Sword..that one is still crappy?

Aaron Lucia
Maitland/Orlando Bujinkan
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studious_ninja
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Japan
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Posted - 07/14/2004 :  20:08:36  Show Profile  Send studious_ninja a Yahoo! Message Send studious_ninja a Private Message  Reply with Quote
if you want to train sword, you should do yourself a favour and purchase a proper curved katana. The straight sword isn't even taught in the bujinkan and there is much debate over whether such a thing even existed.
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LCPLPunk
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Canada
236 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2004 :  01:17:42  Show Profile Send LCPLPunk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the advice Studious!

Aaron Lucia
Maitland/Orlando Bujinkan
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kenjin
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Venezuela
29 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2004 :  10:37:52  Show Profile Send kenjin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Studious, i have to disagree on the ninja to stuff, though we would be disscussing this for years and yet none of us would have the right answers, for what i know the straight sword was use for combat in a reduced space where you cannot draw a full lenght katana and because it is shorter, it's weight is also less than a curved sword, and a attacker could scape faster, also it was used to stab rather than slice. That's why i truly believe they did exist. but as for purchasing on, forget about it, go on a get your curved sword, and if it is for trainig would recomend bokkuto, it's safer and cheaper. But if you think you have the skills go on with a katana

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studious_ninja
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Japan
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Posted - 07/17/2004 :  14:51:02  Show Profile  Send studious_ninja a Yahoo! Message Send studious_ninja a Private Message  Reply with Quote
woohoo! debate. "for what i know the straight sword was use for combat in a reduced space where you cannot draw a full lenght katana and because it is shorter" There are so many different ways to draw a sword that space isn't an issue. Also, it's much easier and faster to draw a curved blade than a straight one. Before there were katana there were ken. a straight sword. The evolution of the blade came about when people realized that a curved blade cut so much more efficiently than a straight blade. Why would 'ninja' just throw away that extra efficiency and carry a straight sword just for stabbing? it doesn't make sense.
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LCPLPunk
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Canada
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Posted - 07/18/2004 :  10:34:37  Show Profile Send LCPLPunk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They wouldn't throw it away.. :P

Aaron Lucia
Maitland/Orlando Bujinkan
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